Defence questions cop’s ‘mistake’ at trial of B.C. dad accused of killing girls

Ulanowski has testified that after he saw the chaotic scene inside the apartment, he left, closed the door and called for a higher-ranking officer to join him because of safety concerns.

Berry’s lawyer Kevin McCullough questioned Ulanowski’s decision on Wednesday. He noted that Ulanowski walked to the lobby to wait for the sergeant, leaving the door to the suite and an exit door next to it unattended.

“Would you agree with me, Const. Ulanowski, you made a significant mistake walking away from that door, which you just identified as a crime scene?” McCullough asked.

“And the reason that you didn’t go in was because of that (crime scene) and your safety because someone could attack you from that scene? You should never have left that position. Do you agree?”

Ulanowski replied simply, “Should I have left the door? I left it.”

The officer acknowledged, under cross-examination by McCullough, that he was not taught during police training to step out of view of a crime scene.

Crown attorney Clare Jennings has alleged that Berry stabbed his daughters more than two dozen times each before attempting to kill himself. The girls had been dead for “some time” when police arrived around 6 p.m., Jennings told the jury in her opening statement.

Ulanowski has said he waited in the lobby for about five minutes before Sgt. Mike Martin arrived. McCullough pointed out that the exit door next to Berry’s apartment led to the building’s exterior, and he asked if Ulanowski knew whether anyone left Berry’s apartment during that time.

“I can’t say that anybody came or left,” the constable responded.

After the two police officers entered the apartment together, Ulanowski said he walked down a hallway and found Andrew Berry naked in a bathtub, with lacerations to his chest and neck and a bruised right eye that was swollen shut.

McCullough questioned whether Ulanowski heard Berry say anything while in the bathroom or in the ambulance on the way to the hospital. The officer replied that he didn’t hear anything and Berry appeared to be unconscious the entire time.

Jennings has said that firefighters who responded to the scene heard Berry say, “Kill me,” and “Leave me alone.”

McCullough also asked for Ulanowski’s opinion on a media statement made by Oak Bay Police Deputy Chief Const. Ray Bernoties between 7:50 and 8:25 p.m. on Dec. 25, 2017. McCullough alleged the deputy chief said local residents had “nothing to worry about.”

The defence lawyer questioned whether that was pretty early to be “wrapping up this case.”

“Probably, yeah,” Ulanowski replied.

On the night of Dec. 25, multiple news outlets reported that a police statement said foul play was suspected but there was no reason to believe the public was at risk.

Ulanowski choked up during his testimony on Tuesday as he described seeing the little girl’s body. On Wednesday, McCullough suggested the officer was in a “complete distraught and shocked state” when he left the apartment and called Martin.

The lawyer said Ulanowski was struggling to piece words together and failed to answer “yes” immediately after Martin asked whether ambulances and more detectives were needed.

“I saw a dead girl on a bed. How am I supposed to process that?” Ulanowski asked. “I wouldn’t say completely distraught, but I was shocked, yes.”

McCullough asked whether people who are in a state of shock aren’t good witnesses and have bad memories. Ulanowski replied that those were fair statements.

The officer earlier told the jury that the apartment was in “disarray” when he arrived, with clothing strewn everywhere and even bunched up in front of the door, making it difficult to open even after he got the key from a property manager.

“It looks like this place has been gone through and everything thrown around. Fair?” McCullough asked.

“It may have, yeah,” Ulanowski replied.

Earlier Wednesday, the jury saw a photo that Ulanowski took of Berry in the ambulance. It showed bloody cuts to the man’s chest and neck, and a swollen right eye.

Jennings told the jury Tuesday that Berry didn’t ask about his daughters the entire time he was in hospital, and that a note was found in his apartment in which he complained about his treatment by his parents and the girls’ mother, Sarah Cotton.

Laura Kane, The Canadian Press

by Canadian Press

Defence questions cop’s ‘mistake’ at trial of B.C. dad accused of killing girls

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